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I list all the cases that I can think of. You may like to consider, and make decisions on your own. Good luck.

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本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1) 如果我没找到工作或上学然后拿到十年旅游签证, 也就是说我们就不能在此之前结婚了, 对吗?会不会快点?

I personally don't think you can have a B visa if you don't work or study in Canada. About a 10-year B visa, you are totally out of control. You may be given a 6-month, 1-year, 3-year, 5-year, or 10-year. Only the offical who takes your case knows. I don't know the immgration things in China. If you are lucky, you can get one. Presumably it is a short one. But long enough for you to come to US first, and marry here.

You can marry inside or outside US. The difference is that if you apply outside US, you will have to wait for an immgration visa number to get in US. If you apply in US, you can wait in US.

You may want to apply for a B visa after you get married. I remember I heard that normally the immigration will consider you have strong intentions to immigrate to US, because you married to a US PR, and you want to apply for a visa for pleasure. This is obvious. (I could be wrong)

By the way, if you have a B visa, and you apply for an immigration visa, your B visa automatically expires. The immgration officers will check your status in their system. Even you present a B visa, they find you are applying for an immgration visa, then they won't look at B visa at all. Besides, you lie to the immigration officers.

2) 7 年, 太长了.可否我们先不申请, 等到他两年之后入籍后, 然后再申请团聚,

It is up to you, whenever you are ready. But this assumption is based on you can legally stay in US for 2 or 3 years by the time he got his citizenship or you can wait either in China or Canada. Normally B visa can make you stay in US at most for 6 months for one time. If you have a multiple-entry B visa, you can get out at the time of 6 months, then you reenter.

Again, if you don't have a good status in Canada, noone can issue you a multi-entry B visa. Besides nobody knows how long this visa can cover. If you get a B visa in China, it is even worse, because normally immgration won't issue a multi-entry visa to a Chinese. (Again, I could be wrong)

If you apply after he becomes a citizen, please prepare 2.5 years for an PR approval. So in this case, you are talking about 2/3 year+2.5 years.

3)如果我持B1/B2 签证到美国, 然后马上在美国结婚, 不回来了, 可不可以在美国境内转身份? PR Pending时, 可以在美国工作吗?

As I said above, if you are holding a B visa AND you don't apply for an immigration visa, you can not stay in US more than 6 months for one time.

Of course you can. When you apply for an immigration visa, you can submit another document to apply for working authorization. It will be issued within 3, or 4 months, after that, you can work legally. This document also can be renewed at a year basis.

It will be a long battle for you. We all know that some people are lucky, some people are extremely lucky, and the others are just regular. If you love him, and will like to be with him for both of your lives, it should be fine. Only the time and money issues. But, if you manage well, it should not be tough. Let's see.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 大家给出个主意吧. 我在国内, 已拿到加拿大的PR. 男朋友在美国工作, 绿卡2年了. 我们打算结婚, -hull(little tail); 2004-2-6 {194} (#1593349@0)
    可是结婚后我就再也去不成美国了.为了能近点, 是应该我去加拿大呢? 还是我在国内申请 B1/B2旅游签证, 然后再美国呆着不回来了, 跟他结婚, 境内等绿卡, 这么做有什么不好和风险吗? 像我这种情况, 怎么办最合适?
    • 建议你过来申请旅游签证（一般给１０年的），然后结婚，这时你可以在美国或加国等绿卡． -weishi(孤独一剑); 2004-2-6 (#1594065@0)
      • 还10年的呢？早就老皇历了 -chenql26(真的不懂--ttsu.com); 2004-2-6 (#1594324@0)
        • 为什么不是10年呢？我上个月刚拿的 -weishi(孤独一剑); 2004-2-6 (#1594437@0)
          • 怎么申请的？介绍一下 -vega_lee(天津の包子.NET); 2004-2-6 (#1594465@0)
          • 牛！ -chenql26(真的不懂--ttsu.com); 2004-2-6 (#1594627@0)
      • To 孤独一剑: 如果我在加拿大短期没找到工作, 也可以申请旅游签证吗? 我以前签过半年多次B1/B2签证. 谢谢! -hull(little tail); 2004-2-6 (#1594738@0)
        • 比较难，要证明你和加拿大有strong ties -weishi(孤独一剑); 2004-2-15 (#1605493@0)
    • Canada VS US -wangqq(Mr.M); 2004-2-7 {1162} (#1595043@0)
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛First of all, a canadian PR means nothing to US immigration. It could be even worse when you apply a VISA in Canada because you have the immgration intentions. Your immigration to Canada is the obvious evident.(not my oppinion, I heard from the immigration officials)

      1. If you came to Canada, you can possibly have a B VISA at least after half a year, supported by an employment or school. Then you can go to US, marry there and wait in US. You can apply for travel document to reenter US, and this document can be renewed every year. If I am correct, it will take you about a few years to wait for approval of a GC, could be up to 7 years because your bf's status: PR.

      2. If you apply for a B VISA in China, and you have a good shape, you can get a VISA in China. Then go to US, marry there, wait for a GC. I guess the same thing, up to 7 years.

      3. Another case will be that you marry in China, and apply for a GC in China. I don't know this case. You may research online.

      Refer to this webpage http://www.uscis.gov. There is a status online, you can check the process there, and it lists the processing cases for the receipt dates.

      Good luck.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • Thank you so muchm Wanggg, But more questions: -hull(little tail); 2004-2-8 {288} (#1597102@0)
        1) 如果我没找到工作或上学然后拿到十年旅游签证, 也就是说我们就不能在此之前结婚了, 对吗?
        2) 7 年, 太长了.可否我们先不申请, 等到他两年之后入籍后, 然后再申请团聚, 会不会快点?
        3)如果我持B1/B2 签证到美国, 然后马上在美国结婚, 不回来了, 可不可以在美国境内转身份? PR Pending时, 可以在美国工作吗?
        • I list all the cases that I can think of. You may like to consider, and make decisions on your own. Good luck. -wangqq(Mr.M); 2004-2-9 {3080} (#1597437@0)
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1) 如果我没找到工作或上学然后拿到十年旅游签证, 也就是说我们就不能在此之前结婚了, 对吗?会不会快点?

          I personally don't think you can have a B visa if you don't work or study in Canada. About a 10-year B visa, you are totally out of control. You may be given a 6-month, 1-year, 3-year, 5-year, or 10-year. Only the offical who takes your case knows. I don't know the immgration things in China. If you are lucky, you can get one. Presumably it is a short one. But long enough for you to come to US first, and marry here.

          You can marry inside or outside US. The difference is that if you apply outside US, you will have to wait for an immgration visa number to get in US. If you apply in US, you can wait in US.

          You may want to apply for a B visa after you get married. I remember I heard that normally the immigration will consider you have strong intentions to immigrate to US, because you married to a US PR, and you want to apply for a visa for pleasure. This is obvious. (I could be wrong)

          By the way, if you have a B visa, and you apply for an immigration visa, your B visa automatically expires. The immgration officers will check your status in their system. Even you present a B visa, they find you are applying for an immgration visa, then they won't look at B visa at all. Besides, you lie to the immigration officers.

          2) 7 年, 太长了.可否我们先不申请, 等到他两年之后入籍后, 然后再申请团聚,

          It is up to you, whenever you are ready. But this assumption is based on you can legally stay in US for 2 or 3 years by the time he got his citizenship or you can wait either in China or Canada. Normally B visa can make you stay in US at most for 6 months for one time. If you have a multiple-entry B visa, you can get out at the time of 6 months, then you reenter.

          Again, if you don't have a good status in Canada, noone can issue you a multi-entry B visa. Besides nobody knows how long this visa can cover. If you get a B visa in China, it is even worse, because normally immgration won't issue a multi-entry visa to a Chinese. (Again, I could be wrong)

          If you apply after he becomes a citizen, please prepare 2.5 years for an PR approval. So in this case, you are talking about 2/3 year+2.5 years.

          3)如果我持B1/B2 签证到美国, 然后马上在美国结婚, 不回来了, 可不可以在美国境内转身份? PR Pending时, 可以在美国工作吗?

          As I said above, if you are holding a B visa AND you don't apply for an immigration visa, you can not stay in US more than 6 months for one time.

          Of course you can. When you apply for an immigration visa, you can submit another document to apply for working authorization. It will be issued within 3, or 4 months, after that, you can work legally. This document also can be renewed at a year basis.

          It will be a long battle for you. We all know that some people are lucky, some people are extremely lucky, and the others are just regular. If you love him, and will like to be with him for both of your lives, it should be fine. Only the time and money issues. But, if you manage well, it should not be tough. Let's see.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
          • Thank you so much. We decide wait till he becomes a citizen. Aong this certain period, I will move to Canada to close him, then we marry and deliver baby in CA as well. -hull(little tail); 2004-2-9 {130} (#1598481@0)
            Because he is near 40 right now. Sigh, he has to fly back and forth but this is only way to make sure we can be together. Damn US!
            • 可以在美国结婚再pending,两地分居，痛苦！ -lazylazy(明天就不懒了！); 2004-2-9 (#1598601@0)
              • 如果持B1/B2 半年往返, 逾期不归, 不就成了黑人吗? -hull(little tail); 2004-2-10 (#1598672@0)
            • Don't panic yet. Everything should be fine. Besides, based on my current knowledge, if one of the parents is a US citizen, you can deliver anywhere you like, and the baby will be the "US citizen born outside". -wangqq(卡尔库鲁斯); 2004-2-10 (#1598776@0)
              • Really? Where to validate this information? I need it very much! -hull(little tail); 2004-2-11 (#1599727@0)
                • The immigration office, of course. -wangqq(卡尔库鲁斯); 2004-2-12 (#1601508@0)
      • hehe,先去旅游结婚,然后尽量呆下来,实在呆不下来,就在Ca把护照换了,不用等什么7年的GC了 -lok(lok); 2004-2-9 (#1597375@0)
    • At last, please collect suggestion from everybody. I can't garantee what I said is all correct. -wangqq(卡尔库鲁斯); 2004-2-10 (#1598779@0)
    • 如果他是绿卡身份，你和他结婚的话是不能获得绿卡身份的； 也没有相应的VISA给你这种情况的人。而且你签证的时候很难签，因为这是典型的移民倾向。相反，如果你男友是H1,你还方便些。 -guestatcanada(素面朝天); 2004-2-15 (#1605516@0)
      • 如果他是绿卡身份，你和他结婚的话是不能获得绿卡身份的；NOT TRUE. Here is the USCIS link for the eligibility. http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/LPReligibility.htm -wangqq(卡尔库鲁斯); 2004-2-15 (#1605715@0)
        • 因为他是绿卡的单身，所以结婚的话她只能是保持自己原来的身份。如果他们是结婚后同时申请绿卡的，可以同时发下。 -guestatcanada(素面朝天); 2004-2-15 (#1605995@0)
          • Have you read the immigration regulations ever? It is clearly specified at USCIS website. I copy here. The only restraint to me is that the applicant must be in US. Please don't mislead people if you don't know. -wangqq(卡尔库鲁斯); 2004-2-15 {587} (#1606016@0)
            You may be eligible to apply for adjustment to permanent resident status if you are already in the United States and if one or more of the following categories apply to you.

            Family Member

            You are the spouse, parent, unmarried child under age 21, the unmarried son or daughter over age 21, the married son or daughter, or the brother or sister of a United States citizen and have a visa petition approved in your behalf.


            You are the spouse or unmarried son or daughter of any age of a lawful permanent resident and you have a family-based visa petition approved in your behalf.
            • My friend holds GC, he cannot get married with girl living in China, cause she cannot get GC and cannot have a definite visa in states. I learned all of this from his experience. -guestatcanada(素面朝天); 2004-2-15 {234} (#1606247@0)
              In my case, i always use B visa to meet my bf in States, each time i cannot stay exceeding 6 months.Not sure whether you can enter states, since to marry with GC holder has serious immigration trends in the immigration office's eyes.
              • Of course you can apply for an immigration visa. Anybody can if the he/she is in US, and he/she is a spouse of either a citizen and PR. The only difference is the time. -wangqq(卡尔库鲁斯); 2004-2-15 (#1606473@0)
              • I shut up for now. I believe what I see on the official immigration website. -wangqq(卡尔库鲁斯); 2004-2-15 (#1606479@0)

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