老是有人问要不要上jerry英语的事情。我觉得好奇怪。我不知道为什么会有此一问。我们从各个方面或多或少了解了，jerry学英语先是把“走遍美国”背了一遍。

jennifer_xuxu(jennifer)

后来，此论坛有人说他看了“美国口音训练”一书。我想问问提问的兄弟姐妹，你们既然已经知道了方法，那你们试了吗？如果你们没去背“走遍美国”，那么你们交了钱也不会学好。如果你们按照Jerry的方法做了，我相信你们一定能学好英文，不用花冤枉钱。
还有，Jerry的口音再好，能好的过“走遍美国”里面的演员吗？他们是Jerry的“老师”，你们不去和“老师”学，为什么要去和“徒弟”学呢？
最后，这里是加拿大，遍地都是正宗的英语。我喜欢在教堂让本地人教我，上COOP的时候，COOP学校也提供了发音课程，TDSB，TCDSB也有相关的课程，这些都不要钱。为什么要花钱去和一个中国人学英语，不奇怪吗？
所以，有提问的时间，不如去看看Jerry如何自学英语的。

本人并不反感Jerry，相反，觉得Jerry给我们中国人带了一个好头。至于XXX的课程，那是商业行为，仁者见仁，智者见智。本人没上过这些课，不作评论。

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support -firewall(防火墙); 2006-6-8 (#3017056@0)

American Accent Training是一本好书，我用过很多种工具书，唯独这本讲解最细致系统，特别把普通话、粤语华人的发音弱点都指出来。比如apple这个词，很简单吧，华人几乎没有能正确发音的，后面的"L"是半元音来着 -kent932(Pilot); 2006-6-8 {511} (#3017099@0)

，感触最深的是很久以前，有一次上课其它族裔的人都说我的发音和同胞不一样。其实我觉得学语言就是一个“放下”的过程，忘了母语的过程（其实根本不用怕，永远忘不了的）。有时看到很多人固执的stubborn，都替他们着急。另外，internet上有非常多的免费资源，搜索一下就能找到。
另外，跟中国人学发音还是有必要的，本地人和ESL老师（我接触的一些）能够告诉你发音不正确，仅此而已，但是他们不知道如何改正，干着急。其实，那本书才30多元，有些培训也才几百元，这点投资相对于一个月的工资来说真的很值。否则，只能在那个vicious circle里面出不来

本书网上有,可以免费下载. -jennifer_xuxu(jennifer); 2006-6-8 (#3017131@0)

where can i download it? thanks! -sowen(sowen); 2006-6-8 (#3017267@0)

You also can get it from library. -alwayswithyou99(Sabrina); 2006-6-8 (#3017336@0)
The official web site: -alwayswithyou99(Sabrina); 2006-6-8 (#3017339@0)
From Amazon: -alwayswithyou99(Sabrina); 2006-6-8 (#3017342@0)

ok, I order the book from amazon, i think i will enjoy it -sowen(sowen); 2006-6-8 (#3017788@0)

同意！我做过外语老师有体会，我教粤语是母语的孩子无论如何不能让他们明白到底哪里错了，而母语是粤语的老师一点他们就通。老师是双语（就是懂你的语言）最好，Jerry是很好的双语老师。 -scarley(紫色的薰衣草); 2006-6-16 (#3032564@0)

Have you ever taken Jerry's class? I mean, being a real student in his class, instead of being a T... -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006-6-16 (#3033334@0)

当然去过，很多启示。我不是托哈，我一点也不喜欢哪个学校的校长，老是来打断Jerry上课。。 -scarley(紫色的薰衣草); 2006-6-16 (#3033365@0)

“。。。喜欢在教堂让本地人教。。。” - 看来你去教堂的动机不纯啊：-) -greensnail(青铜时代); 2006-6-8 (#3017276@0)

从上下文没有看出动机不纯。况且一些教堂有专门的ESL班，原则上不讲圣经，老师和学生的动机都是学英语，没什么不纯的 -maplew2008(call me at 911); 2006-6-8 (#3017354@0)

多伦多哪些教堂有专门的ESL班？谢谢 -greensnail(青铜时代); 2006-6-8 (#3017361@0)

我在Finch/Huntingwood, 星期一是纯粹的ESL, 和教会活动无关. -jennifer_xuxu(jennifer); 2006-6-8 (#3017418@0)

adress please. the two streets don't seem to intersect with each other. -greensnail(青铜时代); 2006-6-8 (#3017435@0)
Sorry, Warden/Huntingwood -jennifer_xuxu(jennifer); 2006-6-8 (#3017449@0)

thanks. what's their schedule for ESL? -greensnail(青铜时代); 2006-6-8 (#3017463@0)

Every Monday from 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm -jennifer_xuxu(jennifer); 2006-6-8 (#3017482@0)

Could you send me their phone number using PM? -greensnail(青铜时代); 2006-6-8 (#3017506@0)

Sorry, I don't know. -jennifer_xuxu(jennifer); 2006-6-9 (#3019238@0)

donmills&eglinton, 路口向东约200M路南，很显眼的一个教堂，还有childcare。关于Schedule，我的车里有他们的一张卡，要的话我找给你。魔门教的哟，有偏见就别去了。我去过半年，后来工作忙就不去了。 -maplew2008(call me at 911); 2006-6-8 (#3017479@0)

魔门教就算了。Thanks anyway. -greensnail(青铜时代); 2006-6-8 (#3017511@0)

Good Point. -ca000(从零开始); 2006-6-8 (#3017320@0)

Highly support - how can we get perfect English from Chinese school, and perfect pronunciation from a Chinese guy which is still learning? Here is a example of learning from Jerry. -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006-6-8 (#3017411@0)

关于英语学习的问题,我想多说几句 -jennifer_xuxu(jennifer); 2006-6-8 {804} (#3017594@0)

关于英语学习的问题,我想多说几句.
可能我们中国人被几千的惯例毒害了.”便宜无好货”,”天下没有免费的午餐”,好象花钱才能学好英语. 但是在这里,我不觉的如此. 我上LINK,ESL, TOEFL都是免学费的.
我上的TOEFL晚班, 老师是个老教师,本地白人.上课一丝不苟. 也乐于解答问题.可是班上大部分都是印巴人. 中国人不多.是不是中国人都去东方,新东方了? 可是那里的教师是有着几十年的教学经验吗? 未必. 我听说有人GMAT考了高分,这些培训中心就请他去上课.

可能你会说, 这些正规的学校不会教你如何破题,如何考高分. 我不否认.但这并不是花高昂的学费的理由.新东方的资料网上都有, 多的可能你都来不及看. 你大可一边上这些免费的课程复习英文,一边自己在家里准备考试. 何乐而不为. 其实,我的老师也讲了不少做题的技巧, 不比中国人教的差.

这里的教育局提供了各种不同的英语培训(除了GMAT,GRE),都是免费的,只要$20的注册费. 我们可以好好利用,当然,你愿意花钱除外.

As there are some full time "Tuo". -hipacific(crystalblue); 2006-6-8 (#3018428@0)

其实我觉得，如果你的英语已经很流利了，只是口音问题让你不能释怀，那么突击改正一下，还是有帮助的。如果单纯把校正口音作为一个学习英语的捷径，那就有点一叶障目了。 -ruoer(乡下人); 2006-6-9 {180} (#3019276@0)

北美至少５０％的人有口音。有口音的不一定英文不好，而英文不好，没有口音也是英文不好。好像我小外甥女在国内上的外教教的英文课，口音纯正，可是只会几个简单的单句对话，你能说她英文好吗？

that's the point. 有语感,能把语言用起来,然后再攻细节. -lalam(lala); 2006-6-9 (#3019286@0)
agree -ardes(William); 2006-6-16 (#3033675@0)
我觉得也是,大部分人不是口音问题,只有我遇到个别的才是真的口音让人听不懂. -gingercat(要坚韧!); 2006-6-23 (#3045359@0)

萝卜青菜各有所爱. -guest1(guest); 2006-6-9 {179} (#3019815@0)

这个讨论毫无意义. jerry的方法只是提高英语的方法之一, 有兴趣的可以试试看.对能按要求刻苦练习的人会有帮助的.

据jerry自己说, 他只学完走遍美国第一课, 背了无数遍, 他没有学完这个教材.

Jerry is great! -neww(sleepy); 2006-6-9 (#3020343@0)
he exaggerates a lot about his ability in his stories. I never believe it. -hucan(whocan); 2006-6-9 (#3020407@0)
totally agree. although i am taking jerry's course now, but i am not -wwiii(everthing but...); 2006-6-9 {421} (#3020450@0)
limiting myself to his class. I am trying out all different kinds of stuff, american accent training, cartoon, radio.
the key is:
1. do it constantly, you may only do it 10 or 20 minutes, if you keep on doing it yo will see the result
2. you've gotta work hard on it regardless what approaches you are gonna try.

how successul you are depends on how bad you want the success
give it a 100% when you are doing it.

it is not worthwhile of paying that money. If you imitate the pronaciation of 美国口音训练, you will be fine. I have to admit that he is good business man. -hucan(whocan); 2006-6-9 (#3020394@0)

how far do you think his business can go? only do business with chinese people can make his business successful in north America? if this is his principle biz, think again -firewall(防火墙); 2006-6-10 (#3021275@0)

呵呵，我相信一个好的滑冰教练教你，可能会胜过一个职业滑冰运动员。 -vetra(piyupiyu); 2006-6-16 (#3032092@0)

同意，问题是谁到底是那个好的滑冰教练啊 -canadalabour(it); 2006-6-16 (#3032138@0)

反正不会是Jerry吧. -jennifer_xuxu(jennifer); 2006-6-16 (#3032543@0)

反正JERRY 不是地道的本地人,也就是说不是职业的运动员, 只能是职业的教练了 -justin123(haha); 2006-6-23 (#3045348@0)

LZ把老师的作用全否定了，就好像把UofT的课本读一遍不等于上了UofT 一样 -ardes(William); 2006-6-16 (#3033609@0)

我觉得LZ不是这个意思，找对老师, 找对方法也是重要的. -gingercat(要坚韧!); 2006-6-23 (#3045365@0)

你最好学会住嘴, 你没有上过JERRY的课你就没有资格在这里放你的撅辞. -iiu2324(乡巴佬); 2006-6-24 {184} (#3046484@0)

不要太自以为是. 是的任何人下到JERRY的功夫都有可能学好. 但有人给你总结出规律给你指个捷径不好吗? 我不想和你多说,因为我很鄙视你,我放下一句话在这里,在过二十年你也是你现在的水平.强不了多少.

newc(sleep)'s new ID again? stupid Jerry himself? XXX school is really aweful - XXX school changes ID frequently to cheat people for getting money - shame on Jerry!! -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006-6-24 {106} (#3046817@0)
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do you think you are better then Jerry. of course no. if he is stupid, how about you? -iiu2324(乡巴佬); 2006-6-24 (#3046888@0)

don't play too much here, Jerry! you're stupid, you just go for money - my friends and I spent money and time on the class, and got nothing, just nothing! Cheating is your favorite, and you're doing best on cheating! -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006-6-25 (#3047047@0)
You're really stupid - if I'm better than Jerry, how come my friends and I went to your class, and were cheated by you and got nothing??? -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006-6-25 (#3047052@0)

do you really think you are cheated? i just paid the money too. what can i do? i hate the lady in XGN. she is ugly and ... -justin123(haha); 2006-6-25 (#3047773@0)

haha, you are definitely fooled by Marina and iiu2324(乡巴佬) , and I was fooled by them too - what can we do? I just tell the truth, and you'll have to be absent the class, just like my friends - waste money and time! -lovefuture(the Brick); 2006-6-25 {230} (#3048178@0)
because you'll get nothing but yelling and shouting from that unskilled CHINESE English pronunciation teacher - Jerry. You'll have to be absent his class, otherwise what can you do? - in my clase 2/3 students left in the middle.

$380 you know, the MARIA's face turned very ugly soon after i paid the money. no refund. -justin123(haha); 2006-6-25 (#3048298@0)

@PEI

老是有人问要不要上jerry英语的事情。我觉得好奇怪。我不知道为什么会有此一问。我们从各个方面或多或少了解了，jerry学英语先是把“走遍美国”背了一遍。

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