not sure if you are really naïve or just pretend to be naïve. "freedom" means different thing for men and women. When a woman truly loves a man she will sincerely tolerate his wrong-doing under the name of "freedom". however, a man, -the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber) @爱德华王子岛华人论坛:爱德华王子岛枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of PEI

if he is truly a man, seldom demonstrate same degree of tolerance. it is nothing about good or bad. it is simply the way we human beings are -- be it biological or social.

说说看~~~猫太有多自由~~~~~~ -dong3213(笨牛); 2013-12-20 (#8523271@0)

她想有多自由，就有多自由。我在精神上，对她没有任何control. -mikesmith(老猫); 2013-12-20 (#8523282@0)

如果她提出每年和蓝颜单独外出旅行一周，怎么样？ -uptowngirl(若初); 2013-12-20 (#8523291@0)

老猫说是精神上，滴水不漏。。。 -tattooo(Sarah); 2013-12-20 (#8523299@0)
如果这是她想要的，我一定同意。但基于两性平等的原则，我也会要求类似的旅行。呵呵。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2013-12-20 (#8523300@0)

7，你有么？:D -uptowngirl(若初); 2013-12-20 (#8523314@0)
真哒？~~~：Ｄ～～ -dong3213(笨牛); 2013-12-20 (#8523318@0)

喀嚓一下大枷锁就卡上了。。。。骨子里有这想法。。。。老猫所谓滴自由也自由不了哪去。。。。 -tigar25(大忽悠之身未动心飞翔); 2013-12-20 (#8523328@0)

漏体上控制很严格？ -pickles(大日如来之性命双修); 2013-12-20 (#8524230@0)

可以自己上厕所 -meisuowei(.); 2013-12-20 (#8523283@0)

老猫今天开局不错，状态来了这是 :D)) -sr-71(Black); 2013-12-20 (#8523276@0)

LOL~~ -ingale(英格儿); 2013-12-20 (#8523302@0)

呵呵，跟我老公说法一样。我老公有很多很多缺点，但是他永远给我需要的自由，而这也是我最看重的。不过这也跟每个人的性格有关，有的人就喜欢小鸟依人 -babyface077(想吃丝娃娃); 2013-12-20 {130} (#8523279@0)

喜欢老公把事情都安排好，这样也很好。没有什么家庭模式是百分百正确或错误的，关键是夫妻俩要性格和谐，只要找到合适的对象，一定都会幸福

+100 -lanblue(蓝); 2013-12-20 (#8523456@0)

"外国的“金星，火星”；其实最终目的，都是教女人顺从这个男权时代，不要抗争。" 你确定你读过"Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus"??? -022007(PartyGirl); 2013-12-20 (#8523303@0)

"Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus" 是分析男女生理差异乃至行为差异, 帮助夫妻互相协调的, 怎么你理解的会是教女人顺从这个男权时代，不要抗争? ~~~ -littlebird09(小小鸟); 2013-12-20 (#8523320@0)

94 -noobody(水皮); 2013-12-20 (#8523330@0)
肤浅了吧。往深了看 -mikesmith(老猫); 2013-12-20 (#8523352@0)

好吧, 我肤浅~ -littlebird09(小小鸟); 2013-12-20 (#8523363@0)
有道理就讲出来呀，说人肤浅对你来说是不是太肤浅了一点？：D。。。。俺也同意小小鸟的，夫妻之间最重要的是和谐，怎样取长补短的问题，可不是去强调自由有多重要。 -lywy(越狱); 2013-12-20 (#8524008@0)
还有，俺觉得dumb_and_dumber（ #8523668@0)也说的特有道理。他点中了你的罩门，，，嘻嘻 -lywy(越狱); 2013-12-20 (#8524013@0)

咋听着这么别扭涅？以给老婆自由而自豪？原来您是彻头彻尾的男权呀？对于平等的２个人来说，不存在谁给予谁自由一说的。 -payday(tuesday); 2013-12-20 (#8523381@0)

老猫的女权和海子的反女权，都是彻头彻尾的男权！鉴定完毕！ -022007(PartyGirl); 2013-12-20 (#8523399@0)
也同意你的观点！ -lywy(越狱); 2013-12-20 (#8523978@0)

not sure if you are really naïve or just pretend to be naïve. "freedom" means different thing for men and women. When a woman truly loves a man she will sincerely tolerate his wrong-doing under the name of "freedom". however, a man, -the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber); 2013-12-20 {171} (#8523668@0)

if he is truly a man, seldom demonstrate same degree of tolerance. it is nothing about good or bad. it is simply the way we human beings are -- be it biological or social.

我sincerely不同意，这是一个极其男权的人对自己行为的一个借口。无非是让女人认了了事，还再给女人一个枷锁带上。我的freedom指的不是这件事。但非要延伸到这上边，那两个认也应该享有同样的权利和义务。 -mikesmith(老猫); 2013-12-20 (#8523682@0)

it is hard to tell whether you are speaking from experience or just hearsay, or even uninformed guesswork. the truth of life is that we rarely run into our perfect "equals". consequently, what is -the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber); 2013-12-20 {188} (#8523741@0)
between a man and a woman is anything but a theoretical equality. we enter a relationship to get what we want (or fulfill what we need for most people), not to practice affirmative action.

强顶！！！！这点说中了老猫的罩门！：DDDDDDDDD -lywy(越狱); 2013-12-20 (#8523971@0)

越狱，这是你说的话? 你认为女人可以tolerance 男人? 男人不会tolerance 女人? 这从根本上解释了你痛恨小三。这个贴标题我支持同意老猫，他很多道理和我象一个模子刻的，里面的内容沒看。 -xiaoxiuliang(xiaoxiu); 2013-12-20 (#8524273@0)

if you have ever truly loved or if you have ever been truly loved you would know a woman becomes a genuine woman the moment she is overwhelmed by the feeling that her soul, as well as her body, is "possessed" -the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber); 2013-12-21 {686} (#8524916@0)
or "owned" . a man, on the other hand, turns into an authentic masculine creature the moment he realizes his own ability to "own", to "possess", and to "conquer" a woman -- her soul as well as her body. a woman is never "owned" unless you own her soul. consequently, a man is never a man unless you sincerely believe you have owned a woman's soul. there are millions of ways for a man to own a woman's body -- money, power, violence, etc. however, there is only one way for a man to "own", or to "possess", a woman's soul -- love. the difference between to "own" and being "owned" explains the difference of "tolerance" between men and women, to various degree.

这是一个非常典型的男权主义者的point of view….in my view, the man and woman in your statement is inter-changeable..and, I don't believe anyone can "own" anyone else's body or soul…in my other post, I said "devotion" is bad... -mikesmith(老猫); 2013-12-21 (#8524932@0)

belief and pride in masculinity is different than male chauvinism. the latter makes women in general the object of exploit after recognizing female weakness as inferior. the former, on the other hand, -the_dumb_one(dumb_and_dumber); 2013-12-21 {221} (#8524990@0)
consider women the tender species to be protected, pampered and spoiled after acknowledging female weakness as something different, but not necessarily inferior. many men on board of Titanic died of such belief and pride.

This is truly not the truth. 男人爱一个女人，亦会接受她的全部，没有任何怀疑。 -xiaoxiuliang(xiaoxiu); 2013-12-20 (#8524253@0)

是你给了妻子自由，还是你把你的自由给了妻子呀，这两种可是天壤之别，前者很容易做到，后者就难了，呵呵。 -balloonface(哼哼); 2013-12-20 (#8523775@0)

看来是猫太给了老猫上网的自由。 -mid-night(羊); 2013-12-20 (#8523861@0)

互相信赖和尊重才有这样的自由。 -newhouse(DAY DREAM); 2013-12-20 (#8523918@0)

老猫最近被踩的厉害，我来这里支持一下。其实这个自由就是尊重对方的意思，不要给对方加个精神枷锁，尊重对方的选择。 -ding_ding(丁_丁); 2013-12-20 (#8524229@0)

叫个男人都应该这样想，都什么年代了，不这样想的男人，女人会从吗? 悄悄跑路，该上哪上哪。 -xiaoxiuliang(xiaoxiu); 2013-12-20 (#8524237@0)

看来你对女人了解的还不够, 其实女人需要的不是自由, 而是粘着你, 男人需要的才是自由. -snowman09(snowman); 2013-12-21 (#8524860@0)

every time I saw your posts, all cui niu bi. -robotics(saga); 2013-12-24 (#8527661@0)

@PEI

not sure if you are really naïve or just pretend to be naïve. "freedom" means different thing for men and women. When a woman truly loves a man she will sincerely tolerate his wrong-doing under the name of "freedom". however, a man,

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